On this 555th episode, James Wickett joins James and me on an interesting discussion on AppSec, developer relationships, and why we just can't seem to make it work. Or maybe we're making it work but not giving ourselves credit? Listen in to this conversation and find out. This one will hook you in, as James, James, and I have a slightly depressing conversation that I think ends in something to be hopeful about.
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