On this week's episode, the one and only Jeff Collins joins Rafal & James to talk about the shift to the cloud and what's gone wrong in the years since the collective "we" announced that the cloud was the answer. Feels like a decade has passed, and I think it has, since the start and we're observing increased complexity and varying degrees of security increase/decrease. What's next? Where are we right now? And what does it mean for security?
Tune in, find out.
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